Metformin question

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
is 32 oz of daily food:

http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes

==================================
32 oz of daily food? Well this is the first I have heard of diet in terms of
overall weight - however because I keep a fairly accurate record of what i
eat and the overall grams - I added it up the individual weight and came to
905 gms (1200 calories) which is almost precisely your figure of 32 ozs!
amazing!

String Beans 150
Various herbs 40
Liver 35
Chicken 160
Mushrooms 140
Onion 40
Cheese 30
Nuts 50
Piece of dark chocolate 10
Raw Salad 250

Adds up to 905 gms or 32 ozs!

MattB

2015-04-06 21:11:52 UTC

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.

David

2015-04-06 21:18:31 UTC

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.

'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

MattB

2015-04-06 21:29:48 UTC

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.

David

2015-04-07 00:16:25 UTC

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
pii
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.

========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 01:38:43 UTC

Post by David
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

Actually what is wrecking everything is http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry (
http://bit.ly/Gen2532 ) people misbehaving terribly until convinced to
be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ( http://WDJW.net/Luke2442 )
instead.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes

Mattb.

2015-04-07 01:29:46 UTC

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
pii
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.
========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

Cardboard. yuck

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 02:51:14 UTC

Post by Mattb.

Post by David
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

Cardboard. yuck

Only the http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry ( http://bit.ly/Gen2532 ) might
"accidently" eat the box while wolfing down the pizza to overeat to be
full.

Thus, it is smarter instead to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry (
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442 )

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes

Oscar

2015-04-07 02:14:50 UTC

Hi
I've been a good boy eating pure paleo very low carb only from >

salads-

and doing a lot of exercise -
So Hbac1 now 5.7 and my only meds are 1000 mg metformin daily.
I dont need the metformin as it doesnt seem to matter whether I take
it or not however my doctor says it is important to continue to take
it (something about the kidneys)
Can anyone give me some advice please on whether I shud go

completely

meds free?
Thanks
David

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

Your on-going health issues really aren't going away until you, Susan, lose
the disease-causing http://WDJW.net/VAT
This is coming from a doctor who is proven to have
http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
as
evident by his hsCRP being now undetectable, his HgbA1c being less than 5.0,
**and** his having maximal insulin sensitivity.
'======================================================

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
pii
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.
========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

I agree about Dominos. Not enough good "mom and pop" pizza joints!

David

2015-04-07 05:05:27 UTC

Hi
I've been a good boy eating pure paleo very low carb only from >

salads-

completely

meds free?
Thanks
David

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

Your on-going health issues really aren't going away until you, Susan, lose
the disease-causing http://WDJW.net/VAT
This is coming from a doctor who is proven to have
http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
as
evident by his hsCRP being now undetectable, his HgbA1c being less than 5.0,
**and** his having maximal insulin sensitivity.
'======================================================

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
pii
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.
========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

I agree about Dominos. Not enough good "mom and pop" pizza joints!

==========================================
mind you they are getting a little better the local Dominos has put out a
'gourmet' range which is passable - but we have a family pizza place real
italians and they make pizza to die for

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 10:09:37 UTC

Post by David
mind you they are getting a little better the local Dominos has put out a
'gourmet' range which is passable - but we have a family pizza place real
italians and they make pizza to die for

The latter dying doesn't happen if we're
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry enjoying the pizza (instead of
wolfing it down to overeat to be full as are the
http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry ) **and** holding ourselves to the right
amount, which really is 32 oz of daily food.

So, don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes

MattB

2015-04-07 18:50:30 UTC

Post by Oscar

Hi
I've been a good boy eating pure paleo very low carb only from >

salads-

completely

meds free?
Thanks
David

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

Your on-going health issues really aren't going away until you, Susan, lose
the disease-causing http://WDJW.net/VAT
This is coming from a doctor who is proven to have
http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
as
evident by his hsCRP being now undetectable, his HgbA1c being less than 5.0,
**and** his having maximal insulin sensitivity.
'======================================================

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Laus Deo :-)
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart
pii
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.
========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

I agree about Dominos. Not enough good "mom and pop" pizza joints!
==========================================
mind you they are getting a little better the local Dominos has put out a
'gourmet' range which is passable - but we have a family pizza place real
italians and they make pizza to die for

Don't think Washington State knows what good Pizza is. Not Pizza but
I miss Sonic Drive ins. I think the East keeps the better places to
themselves. ;-))

fake outsider

2015-04-07 19:55:30 UTC

, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and

Post by Oscar

Post by MattB
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does it
special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms are
very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes - my
wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is mushrooms
and peperoni doesnt get any better

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.
========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

I agree about Dominos. Not enough good "mom and pop" pizza joints!
==========================================
mind you they are getting a little better the local Dominos has put out a
'gourmet' range which is passable - but we have a family pizza place real
italians and they make pizza to die for

Don't think Washington State knows what good Pizza is. Not Pizza but
I miss Sonic Drive ins. I think the East keeps the better places to
themselves. ;-))

Don't be so quick to write off Washington state. Olympia Pizza on Queen
Anne ave Seattle has some very very nice pizza. I went there a few times
starting in the 70s when I came down from Canada. Startlingly good
pizza. Alas, having type 2 eliminates eating it any more except when my
wife makes it with a carbalose crust. Can't get decent eat out pizza in
Kamloops anyway.

I still remember my last piece from Olympia Pizza. 1997,, sigh.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 22:26:39 UTC

Post by fake outsider
Don't be so quick to write off Washington state. Olympia Pizza on Queen
Anne ave Seattle has some very very nice pizza. I went there a few times
starting in the 70s when I came down from Canada. Startlingly good
pizza. Alas, having type 2 eliminates eating it any more except when my
wife makes it with a carbalose crust. Can't get decent eat out pizza in
Kamloops anyway.
I still remember my last piece from Olympia Pizza. 1997,, sigh.

Your still having type-2 diabetes is proof that your dieting (i.e.
avoiding pizza from Olympia Pizza) has not worked over the past 18
years and that the cause is not from the few times of eating pizza
from Olympia Pizza but from eating excess (more that 32 oz/day) food
even now.

Thus, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes

MattB

2015-04-07 23:12:36 UTC

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:55:30 -0500, fake outsider

Post by MattB
, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and

Post by Oscar

You like it the same as my wife. She like thin crust. Washington
State doesn't have many good pizzeria's. My favorite when I eating
alone was CiCi's though Washington State doesn't have any.
========================================
That's what is wrong with this world - not enough GOOD pizza joints -
Dominos have wrecked this industry!

I agree about Dominos. Not enough good "mom and pop" pizza joints!
==========================================
mind you they are getting a little better the local Dominos has put out a
'gourmet' range which is passable - but we have a family pizza place real
italians and they make pizza to die for

Don't think Washington State knows what good Pizza is. Not Pizza but
I miss Sonic Drive ins. I think the East keeps the better places to
themselves. ;-))

Don't be so quick to write off Washington state. Olympia Pizza on Queen
Anne ave Seattle has some very very nice pizza. I went there a few times
starting in the 70s when I came down from Canada. Startlingly good
pizza. Alas, having type 2 eliminates eating it any more except when my
wife makes it with a carbalose crust. Can't get decent eat out pizza in
Kamloops anyway.
I still remember my last piece from Olympia Pizza. 1997,, sigh.

Added that to my phone was it a little brick front place? The House
special looks good.

Thanks

Julie Bove

2015-04-08 04:57:40 UTC

Added that to my phone was it a little brick front place? The House
special looks good.
Thanks

I am in the area but I can't say much about the pizza since I don't care for
pizza very much. Some people like Sparta's though.

2015-04-08 05:22:52 UTC

Post by fake outsider
Don't be so quick to write off Washington state. Olympia Pizza on
Queen Anne ave Seattle has some very very nice pizza. I went there
a few times starting in the 70s when I came down from Canada.
Startlingly good
pizza. Alas, having type 2 eliminates eating it any more except
when my wife makes it with a carbalose crust. Can't get decent eat
out pizza in Kamloops anyway.
I still remember my last piece from Olympia Pizza. 1997,, sigh.

Added that to my phone was it a little brick front place? The House
special looks good.
Thanks

I am in the area but I can't say much about the pizza since I don't
care for pizza very much. Some people like Sparta's though.

pizza is for fast moving teens

Gys de Jongh

2015-04-08 06:13:44 UTC

Post by %

Post by fake outsider
Don't be so quick to write off Washington state. Olympia Pizza on
Queen Anne ave Seattle has some very very nice pizza. I went there
a few times starting in the 70s when I came down from Canada.
Startlingly good pizza. Alas, having type 2 eliminates eating it any
more except
when my wife makes it with a carbalose crust. Can't get decent eat
out pizza in Kamloops anyway.
I still remember my last piece from Olympia Pizza. 1997,, sigh.

Added that to my phone was it a little brick front place? The House
special looks good.
Thanks

I am in the area but I can't say much about the pizza since I don't
care for pizza very much. Some people like Sparta's though.

pizza is for fast moving teens

Gys de Jongh

2015-04-08 06:14:46 UTC

Post by %

Post by fake outsider
Don't be so quick to write off Washington state. Olympia Pizza on
Queen Anne ave Seattle has some very very nice pizza. I went there
a few times starting in the 70s when I came down from Canada.
Startlingly good pizza. Alas, having type 2 eliminates eating it any
more except
when my wife makes it with a carbalose crust. Can't get decent eat
out pizza in Kamloops anyway.
I still remember my last piece from Olympia Pizza. 1997,, sigh.

Added that to my phone was it a little brick front place? The House
special looks good.
Thanks

I am in the area but I can't say much about the pizza since I don't
care for pizza very much. Some people like Sparta's though.

pizza is for fast moving teens

long threads about stuffing pizza in their piehole
why would they get T2

Julie Bove

2015-04-08 06:47:26 UTC

Post by %
pizza is for fast moving teens

long threads about stuffing pizza in their piehole
why would they get T2

I've never really liked it. I just don't see the appeal.

Don Roberto

2015-04-08 11:57:36 UTC

Post by %
pizza is for fast moving teens

long threads about stuffing pizza in their piehole
why would they get T2

I've never really liked it. I just don't see the appeal.

I like it.
I just don't like the crust.

Don Roberto

Maya Zuiderweg

2015-04-09 00:37:41 UTC

Post by Don Roberto

Post by %
pizza is for fast moving teens

long threads about stuffing pizza in their piehole
why would they get T2

I've never really liked it. I just don't see the appeal.

I like it.
I just don't like the crust.
Don Roberto

I ate a pizza on Easter Monday. Cheese, tomato, anchovies, olives and
capers. Yummy!
I used to give the crust to my cat, but that was not healthy (too salty
I guess), also it made him fart horrEndous-ly.
Now I throw the crust in the bin.

M.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-09 01:57:27 UTC

Post by Maya Zuiderweg
I ate a pizza on Easter Monday. Cheese, tomato, anchovies, olives and
capers. Yummy!
I used to give the crust to my cat, but that was not healthy (too salty
I guess), also it made him fart horrEndous-ly.

So the cat did not develop type-2 diabetes from the crust, and you
still have type-2 diabetes.

Therefore, the crust does not cause type-2 diabetes.

Instead, what causes type-2 diabetes is excess food (i.e. eating more
than the right amount which is 32 oz per day).

Thus, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes

Don Roberto

2015-04-10 09:57:48 UTC

Post by Maya Zuiderweg

Post by Don Roberto

Post by %
pizza is for fast moving teens

long threads about stuffing pizza in their piehole
why would they get T2

I've never really liked it. I just don't see the appeal.

I like it.
I just don't like the crust.
Don Roberto

I ate a pizza on Easter Monday. Cheese, tomato, anchovies, olives and
capers.

Good combination.

Yummy!

Indeed.

Post by Maya Zuiderweg
I used to give the crust to my cat, but that was not healthy (too salty
I guess), also it made him fart horrEndous-ly.
Now I throw the crust in the bin.
M.

Oscar

2015-04-06 22:07:46 UTC

Hi
I've been a good boy eating pure paleo very low carb only from

salads-

That doc is wrong.
Low carb diet and no meds reversed my advanced kidney damage in 1998 and
only improvements to ideal levels ever since.
Susan

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/LKd5V7bJ4rQ/DAchV5OTztkJ

Good point I still got a bit of visceral fat and in the process of getting
rid of it ...

The absolutely only **healthy** way is by stopping the overeating
without harmful undernourishment by holding to the right amount which
http://WDJW.net/HealthyPanacea

- inflamation markers (CRP) were good in my last blood test -

A detectable CRP is actually a high hsCRP which is **not** good.
The only good CRP is a non-detectable hsCRP.
The "hs" in hsCRP is "high sensitivity" which means a much lower
threshold for detection.

dont know about Susan . . . .

Susan should know better by now.

Thanks

Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.
'=========================================================
me too except hold the Jalopeno . . . . my favourite pizzeria here does
it special for me as I always complain when it is too 'wet' as mushrooms
are very watery - so be dries out the mushrooms first for a few minutes
- my wife orders a supreme makes me want to throw up - all you need is
mushrooms and peperoni doesnt get any better

Too much salt in those anchovies for me.

Nothing wrong with a mushroom only pizza, but the pepperoni adds a
spicy, meaty flavor.

I prefer a thin New York-style crust, although years ago, I used to
enjoy a deep-dish Chicago-style pizza having a thicker crust and
multiple layers of cheese. Can't get a true Chicago deep dish pizza
unless one is in Chicago.

I just bought a small package of dried porchini mushrooms. I want to
make a soup with a clear vegetable broth (no cream).

Instructions on the package don't say more than rinse, soak, and cook
the mushrooms.

Anyone have experience preparing dried porchini mushrooms?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 00:08:01 UTC

Post by Oscar
Too much salt in those anchovies for me.
Nothing wrong with a mushroom only pizza, but the pepperoni adds a
spicy, meaty flavor.
I prefer a thin New York-style crust, although years ago, I used to
enjoy a deep-dish Chicago-style pizza having a thicker crust and
multiple layers of cheese. Can't get a true Chicago deep dish pizza
unless one is in Chicago.
I just bought a small package of dried porchini mushrooms. I want to
make a soup with a clear vegetable broth (no cream).
Instructions on the package don't say more than rinse, soak, and cook
the mushrooms.
Anyone have experience preparing dried porchini mushrooms?

The package instructions are correct :-)

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for acquired disease

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 00:05:39 UTC

Post by MattB
Personally my favorite food is Pizza with Pep, Mushrooms, Jalapeno and
anchovies.

As long as the pizza is not part of excess food (i.e. food in excess
of the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily food), there is no reason
to think it harmful.

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDoc777-touts-hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://WDJW.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for acquired disease

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2015-04-07 00:02:56 UTC