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Is Gohde's bird deficient in VitD?
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Taka
2015-02-19 13:04:55 UTC
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Full-spectrum lighting is especially important if natural light is not available.

Often our birds are completely housed indoors and never see the sunlight. Even those by a window will not benefit from the sun because the window acts as a filter preventing the bird from absorbing the benefits of the sun such as Vitamin D3. Birds need exposure to UVA and UVB rays from direct sunlight (windows block necessary UV rays) or full-spectrum lighting to synthesize vitamin D necessary for bone health. Birds use sunlight by preening their feathers. The substance on the feathers will undergo a chemical reaction from the sunlight producing Vitamin D3 which the bird ingests with further preening of the feathers. The indoor bird does not have the benefit of this reaction.

Vitamin D3 is crucial for overall health, but particularly important for egg laying, strong babies and vitality in the young birds and breeding flock

The most common health problems associated with vitamin D deficiency are:

•Breeding / Reproduction-related problems:
◦Egg binding and soft shell eggs
◦Chick death -- usually occuring at about 18 or 19 days of incubation. Malpositions, soft bones, and with a defective upper beak prominent.
•Physical Abnormalities:
◦Bent keels, splayed legs and beaks abnormality (i.e., soft / overgrown beak)
◦Seizures
◦Stargazing
◦Feather plucking
•Conure Bleeding Syndrome
•Cancer: Dr. William Grant, Ph.D. lead a study that found that about 30 percent of cancer deaths could be prevented each year with higher levels of vitamin D. Vitamin D protects against cancer in several ways: it increases the self-destruction of mutated cells it reduces the spread and reproduction of cancer cells it reduces the growth of new blood vessels from pre-existing ones, which is a step in the transition of dormant tumors turning cancerous.
Natural food sources that are rich in Vitamin D are superior. However, you may want to consider discuss supplementation with your vet. Supplementation needs to be carefully screened and supervised by a vet since an excess of vitamin D (in the form of a supplement) causes kidney damage and retards growth.

I would suggest starting out with the light in the same room but not lighted or next to the cage and gradually moving it closer to the cage over several days. When the bird appears comfortable with the light is can be placed within 18 inches of the cage and turned on. Ensure that the bird is unable to access the light or cord because most will chew given the opportunity. Also, the light should not be left on around the clock. Night time and darkness is also important to the bird's health and I recommend 12 hours of uninterrupted darkness each night. Some of the better light will simulate dawn and dusk with a slow brightening and dimming and can be placed on a timer for consistency.

Birds enjoy natural sunlight and if you can provide that on a daily basis - that would be best and most inexpensive way to go. Many bird owners relocate their birds to an outside flight or they move the cage out every day for half an hour or so. However, when weather conditions prohibit this, full-spectrum lighting is a viable alternative ...

SOURCE: http://beautyofbirds.com/lighting.html
Taka
2015-02-19 13:10:42 UTC
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Don't know the level in parrots but for Moi's cock >75 nmol/L, or 30 ng/mL should be enough:

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/4/1080S.full

(good paper tells it all)
John H. Gohde
2015-02-19 14:27:18 UTC
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http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.

Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.

Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.

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«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
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2015-02-19 20:58:33 UTC
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Post by John H. Gohde
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.
Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.
Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
http://youtu.be/liq__GnfNB0
………
«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
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While the JG is an old Bozo bird, he does go outside now and then
and he takes a supplement with his wheat seed.

blabber nagging works for the JG.......................Trig
John H. Gohde
2015-02-20 02:33:36 UTC
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Post by John H. Gohde
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.
Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.
Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
http://youtu.be/liq__GnfNB0
………
«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
_`·--·´_
While the JG is an old Bozo bird, he does go outside now and then
and he takes a supplement with his wheat seed.
blabber nagging works for the JG.......................Trig
Yo, How do you manage to breathe, Trig? You are so fucking stupid, after all.
Posting into the Vacuum of Space
2015-02-20 05:29:03 UTC
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Post by John H. Gohde
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Post by John H. Gohde
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.
Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.
Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
http://youtu.be/liq__GnfNB0
………
«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
_`·--·´_
While the JG is an old Bozo bird, he does go outside now and then
and he takes a supplement with his wheat seed.
blabber nagging works for the JG.......................Trig
Yo, How do you manage to breathe, Trig? You are so fucking stupid, after all.
Recall who the runner is? And you got the first part right of the
second sentence ;)

be mellow and take a walk in the nearest park at night...........Trig
John H. Gohde
2015-02-20 12:31:37 UTC
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Post by John H. Gohde
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.
Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.
Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
http://youtu.be/liq__GnfNB0
………
«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
_`·--·´_
While the JG is an old Bozo bird, he does go outside now and then
and he takes a supplement with his wheat seed.
blabber nagging works for the JG.......................Trig
Yo, How do you manage to breathe, Trig? You are so fucking stupid, after all.
Recall who the runner is? And you got the first part right of the
second sentence ;)
be mellow and take a walk in the nearest park at night...........Trig
YOU are a Pultz.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pultz

Wow, YOU wouldn't recognize TRUE Science, if it ran over your sorry arse with a Mack truck.

My how this Pultz babbles on so. Moi has determined that ALL your ilk are certifiably insane.

Yo, enough of your gibberish, Kook!

Try looking into the mirror. Moi does NOT accept health advice from the Liar, Fool, and / or Crazy that is staring back at your ugly mug.
................. the Moi, has spoken
Posting into the Vacuum of Space
2015-02-21 05:41:42 UTC
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Post by John H. Gohde
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.
Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.
Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
http://youtu.be/liq__GnfNB0
………
«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
_`·--·´_
While the JG is an old Bozo bird, he does go outside now and then
and he takes a supplement with his wheat seed.
blabber nagging works for the JG.......................Trig
Yo, How do you manage to breathe, Trig? You are so fucking stupid, after all.
Recall who the runner is? And you got the first part right of the
second sentence ;)
be mellow and take a walk in the nearest park at night...........Trig
YOU are a Pultz.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pultz
Wow, YOU wouldn't recognize TRUE Science, if it ran over your sorry arse with a Mack truck.
My how this Pultz babbles on so. Moi has determined that ALL your ilk are certifiably insane.
Yo, enough of your gibberish, Kook!
Try looking into the mirror. Moi does NOT accept health advice from the Liar, Fool, and / or Crazy that is staring back at your ugly mug.
................. the Moi, has spoken
Fuming and frothing so goes the Gohde.

Please don't don't accept any advice from anyone...........Trig
John H. Gohde
2015-02-21 12:19:00 UTC
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http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/8/4/1080S.full
(good paper tells it all)
Give it up Taka. Your NEGATIVITY is NOT working.
Just thought that this Pultz might want to know.
Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
http://youtu.be/liq__GnfNB0
………
«⊙¿⊙» Says that Taka is a few beers short of a six-pack. :)
_`·--·´_
While the JG is an old Bozo bird, he does go outside now and then
and he takes a supplement with his wheat seed.
blabber nagging works for the JG.......................Trig
Yo, How do you manage to breathe, Trig? You are so fucking stupid, after all.
Recall who the runner is? And you got the first part right of the
second sentence ;)
be mellow and take a walk in the nearest park at night...........Trig
YOU are a Pultz.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pultz
Wow, YOU wouldn't recognize TRUE Science, if it ran over your sorry arse with a Mack truck.
My how this Pultz babbles on so. Moi has determined that ALL your ilk are certifiably insane.
Yo, enough of your gibberish, Kook!
Try looking into the mirror. Moi does NOT accept health advice from the Liar, Fool, and / or Crazy that is staring back at your ugly mug.
................. the Moi, has spoken
Fuming and frothing so goes the Gohde.
Please don't don't accept any advice from anyone...........Trig
Certainly, NOT from babbling hyaenas, like Trigger.

Remember that Trigger ended up being stuffed............ the Moi
Posting into the Vacuum of Space
2015-02-22 05:12:43 UTC
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We all end up as one following the following: fossilized, pickled, embalmed, dust, ashes, worm food, freeze dried in space, plasma, CO2, frozen, incinerated, simply frozen or a carbon layer.

Of course some think they are the elect of the Deity is that
the Moi? You seem to think you are of the elect. Assuming you
understand the term.

Trig
John H. Gohde
2015-02-22 11:32:11 UTC
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We all end up as one following the following: fossilized, pickled, embalmed, dust, ashes, worm food, freeze dried in space, plasma, CO2, frozen, incinerated, simply frozen or a carbon layer.
Of course some think they are the elect of the Deity is that
the Moi? You seem to think you are of the elect. Assuming you
understand the term.
Trig
The dumb-fuck Trig, babbles on so.............the Moi
Posting into the Vacuum of Space
2015-02-23 00:19:03 UTC
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We all end up as one following the following: fossilized, pickled, embalmed, dust, ashes, worm food, freeze dried in space, plasma, CO2, frozen, incinerated, simply frozen or a carbon layer.
Of course some think they are the elect of the Deity is that
the Moi? You seem to think you are of the elect. Assuming you
understand the term.
Trig
The dumb-fuck Trig, babbles on so.............the Moi
Old narrow shoulders Gohde had better go hoe his wheat or potato patch.
Oh that's right your a city dweller so that doesn't apply.

you first Gonehe..................Trig
John H. Gohde
2015-02-23 12:59:41 UTC
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We all end up as one following the following: fossilized, pickled, embalmed, dust, ashes, worm food, freeze dried in space, plasma, CO2, frozen, incinerated, simply frozen or a carbon layer.
Of course some think they are the elect of the Deity is that
the Moi? You seem to think you are of the elect. Assuming you
understand the term.
Trig
The dumb-fuck Trig, babbles on so.............the Moi
Old narrow shoulders Gohde had better go hoe his wheat or potato patch.
Oh that's right your a city dweller so that doesn't apply.
you first Gonehe..................Trig
Teaching Trig how to spell................... the Moi

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