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Manuka honey and Alzheimer's Disease
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Mark Thorson
2015-06-30 21:52:32 UTC
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Higher levels of methylglyoxal associated with poorer memory,
executive function, and less gray matter in people:

http://biomedgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/09/gerona.gls100.full.pdf

Methylglyoxal derivative fed to mice increased amyloid beta
accumulation and impaired learning and memory:

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/13/4940.full.pdf

Methylglyoxal is the dominant bioactive compound in Manuka
honey:

http://www.agriculturejournals.cz/publicFiles/07735.pdf
2015-07-01 00:26:16 UTC
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on Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:52:32 -0800 ,
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Post by Mark Thorson
Higher levels of methylglyoxal associated with poorer memory,
http://biomedgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/09/gerona.gls100.full.pdf
Methylglyoxal derivative fed to mice increased amyloid beta
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/13/4940.full.pdf
Methylglyoxal is the dominant bioactive compound in Manuka
http://www.agriculturejournals.cz/publicFiles/07735.pdf
There was also a A 2008 Cochrane Review which
states that Manuka honey shows no real medicinal or
antibacterial effects.
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Clay
2015-07-01 03:40:01 UTC
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on Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:52:32 -0800 ,
says...
Post by Mark Thorson
Higher levels of methylglyoxal associated with poorer memory,
http://biomedgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/09/gerona.gls100.full.pdf
Methylglyoxal derivative fed to mice increased amyloid beta
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/13/4940.full.pdf
Methylglyoxal is the dominant bioactive compound in Manuka
http://www.agriculturejournals.cz/publicFiles/07735.pdf
There was also a A 2008 Cochrane Review which
states that Manuka honey shows no real medicinal or
antibacterial effects.
Years ago I was looking at a 5 oz jar of Manuka Honey at a local health
food store here.

They wanted $40 for it, and at the time I thought that was outrageous,
despite the fact that it was produced only in New Zealand.

Now I'm glad I didn't let myself become a rube.

I'm going to a local farm tomorrow a few counties from where I live.
They've advertised a crop of sour tart cherries. It's "U-Pick-Em." I'm
hoping to pick a basket because I haven't seen tart cherries here in
well over a decade.

When I was much younger, my maternal grandmother would put them in a
large jar, add some sugar, cover the jar's opening with a cloth, and let
the jar sit near a kitchen window that got plenty of summer sun. Some
time later, she'd drain and strain the liquid, and store it in a bottle.
She'd pull it during the following winter when cold season came around.
It was highly alcoholic, but taken a teaspoon at a time, it always
seemed to knock out my sore throats, particularly when ingested with hot
tea flavored with lemon and honey.

If I pick enough of them tomorrow, I'll try that fermentation process
from what I can now remember.
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all Summer." -Henry Clay (1777-1852)
The Other Guy
2015-07-01 04:30:23 UTC
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Post by Clay
Years ago I was looking at a 5 oz jar of Manuka Honey at a local health
food store here.
They wanted $40 for it, and at the time I thought that was outrageous,
despite the fact that it was produced only in New Zealand.
Seems to run about $40 a pound or close, and looks to be promoted
WAY MORE as a medicine rather than food. Without ANY medical
evidence that I could see, of course.





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Taka
2015-07-01 14:01:01 UTC
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Ketogenic diets also increase Methylglyoxal ...
It may kill cancer cells and elevate apoptosis, oxidative stress is not always that bad turns out.
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